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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:26 AM

Here are my needs.

Motherboard - Prefer Intel but convince me AMD is better.

RAM - DDR3 2600 is that the good shit, I don't know any more.

Processor - I7? i5? unlocked? I don't know what any of this mean there is literally 7 different i7 processors with numbers after them I don't understand.

Video Card - I have a GTX260 now but I see on card that's $200 and a card right next to it with the same specs on the box that's $400 I don't get it. I do some editing in Vegas, Play some games like Simcity, TF2, and some Skyrim.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:27 AM

Oh budget let's say <$800

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:23 AM

motherboard: your options aren't only intel or amd. it has to have a intel or amd socket to accept the processor but there are tons of mfgers. you want a socket 1155 board for your i5/i7. i like gigabyte for their dual bios but i use msi regularly too. asus is nice but tends to be priced a little higher with no real benefit because fanbois love them. aside from the dual bios, nothing is going to really set one mfg apart from the others, you can get the same features on all of them.

 

RAM: with DDR3 the clock speed doesn't really matter, you won't perceive a difference between 1333 and 2600. i use corsair almost exclusively now because over the years and hundreds of sticks i've bought, they're the only brand that hasn't sent me something DOA yet. i'm not going to say they're the best (it's ram it's all the same shit) but they seem to have the best QA in my experience.

 

processor: bigger number is better, generally. go for a 3570k or 3770k. if it has a k, it's unlocked.

 

video card: the specs can tend to be misleading, just go by the make/model and post any questions up here. evga is stellar, i've had problems with msi cards.

 

use anandtech's bench to compare specs of different cpus and video cards if you're not sure how they compare: http://www.anandtech.com/Bench/

 

you mentioned that you'll be reusing a bunch of stuff. i don't recommend doing that but if you must, keep in mind that your power supply may not be up to snuff and your cpu waterblock may not fit your new motherboard.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:16 AM

The newer amd fx's are great with a board in the range of an asus saber tooth. They overclock great and don't have any real issues, you can pick up a gtx660ti for around 200 which will play anything you want and will oc decently too. Like Dylan said, evga on the graphics card, I love the two I've had. No problems at all and both were oc'd and abused. Same with corsair. Might do an ssd/hdd setup, it really speeds stuff up and doesn't cost an arm/leg anymore.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:42 AM

I bought a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650Ti 2GB OC for $179 at Fry's, and it runs TF2 and Simcity flawlessly, even on my 47" 1080p. I'm still using a Q6600, but will be building something new soon too. 

Good comparo between the AMD 8350, Intel 3570K and 3770K, and a 3820. The AMD doesn't win every time like he plays it up, but it does surprisingly well for the cost to built a machine around it, vs the cost of the Intels. You can do quite well with either one. I'm going Intel/nvidia out of habit, but I just built my kids an AMD system that screams. Granted, it rarely does much more than Roblox or Torchlight 2. 

 

660ti is gonna run closer to $300

http://www.newegg.co...i&x=-785&y=-152

 

650ti is $150-180, even for a 2GB overclocked board. Gigabyte cards come with 2 huge fans on them. You can run them pretty hard and they are bundled with OC'ing software, but most OC cards are. 

http://www.newegg.co...i&x=-785&y=-152


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:47 AM

static comparison of the 8350 and the 3570: http://www.anandtech...duct/701?vs=697

 

8350 shines in multithreaded stuff as expected with it's 8 cores


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:58 AM

Sorry, I didn't mean to say the fx was the best, it's just freaking awesome for how much it costs. Amd has always been good about that.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:03 PM

oh, yeah, definitely. i wasn't saying otherwise :)


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:11 PM

The wife just bought a Lenovo Thinkpad Twist with some good grades school funds. i7, 8GB, 500GB HDD and a touch screen that makes Windows 8 pretty damned awesome. I mean - I'm a Linux nerd, but I really want one, and I would run Windows on it.  

 

$995.00 shipped from Newegg. 

 

EDIT: I know this isn't what you asked about, but desktops are overrated for most people in 2013.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 06:31 PM

Something, something, solid state drive, something...



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:50 PM

I just bought parts to build a new computer specs to come.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:34 PM

Something, something, solid state drive, something...

SSD is an excessive expenditure for most people. A good SATA drive will do the trick for pretty much everything. 


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:52 PM

Sweet, post up what you ordered!
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:06 PM

Case: Cooler Master HAF-XM

Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0

Processor: AMD FX-6300 Black Edition (whatever that means)

Video: Asus GTX650-E-2GD5

HDD: Seagate 2GB Baracuda

Ram: Intel DDR3 1866 16GB

Heat Sync: Cooler Master  Hyper 212 EVO

Power supply: Corsair TX550M

 

Spent less than I was able to price it out on newegg for and they put it together.

 

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:20 PM

Kind of a random clump of stuff but it should serve you well, where did you get it from? Should oc like a bastard.


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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:53 PM

SSD is an excessive expenditure for most people. A good SATA drive will do the trick for pretty much everything. 

 

that's the same thing as saying, "you don't need to upgrade your speakers the oem ones play music just fine." it's true but there's a reason you spend the money for better speakers.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:11 AM

that's the same thing as saying, "you don't need to upgrade your speakers the oem ones play music just fine." it's true but there's a reason you spend the money for better speakers.

There are plenty of 'speakers' between OEM and $1200 Focals.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:37 AM

likewise, a single SATA SSD is relatively middle of the road.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:48 AM

I don't know what this has to do with me building a new computer.

 

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:51 AM

Honestly, an SSD is more of an upgrade on most systems then a processor that's 100 dollars more.

 

for instance, I use a 13" macbook pro for work.  I recently put in a 320 gig 7200rpm seagate drive for storage because my mbp has a 128gig ssd.

 

the boot time for my windows 7 vm when the vm's boot partition is about 15 seconds, i copied the boot partition over to the seagate drive and it's about 2 minutes.



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:33 PM

I don't know what this has to do with me building a new computer.
 
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:06 PM

Case: Cooler Master HAF-XM

Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0

Processor: AMD FX-6300 Black Edition (whatever that means)

Video: Asus GTX650-E-2GD5

HDD: Seagate 2GB Baracuda

Ram: Intel DDR3 1866 16GB

Heat Sync: Cooler Master  Hyper 212 EVO

Power supply: Corsair TX550M

 

Spent less than I was able to price it out on newegg for and they put it together.

 

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:51 PM

Case: Cooler Master HAF-XM
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0
Processor: AMD FX-6300 Black Edition (whatever that means)
Video: Asus GTX650-E-2GD5
HDD: Seagate 2GB Baracuda
Ram: Intel DDR3 1866 16GB
Heat Sync: Cooler Master  Hyper 212 EVO
Power supply: Corsair TX550M
 
Spent less than I was able to price it out on newegg for and they put it together.
 
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 08:12 PM

I would suggest another video card, the GTX 650, even the GTX 650 Ti, is a sub-par video card and not really future proof if you want to play games like Tomb Raider on High - Ultra settings at full res.

 

AMD 7870 is around $250 right now and comes with Tomb Raider & Bioshock Infinite. I think the deal is good till the end of the year or whenever the codes are exhausted, It's still going on right now. 78xx series gets you TR & Bioshock, 79xx series gets you Bioshock and Crysis 3. If you want a more future proof card, I would suggest the 7950. It goes for about $320. 

 

Dell is selling a 660Ti for $220 right now after a $50MIR. Comes with AC3. http://slickdeals.ne...eed-iii-pc-game

 

Also 3570k can be picked up at Microcenter for $190. IMO, it beats out FX6300 for all about needs unless you are video editing and need the extra cores. 

 

3570k mated with the GTX 660 Ti, you will have a very low power consuming machine that will dominate at most things thrown at it. 


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:27 PM

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 09:19 AM

I picked up my i7 3770k for $250 after tax from Microcenter.  They are hands down the cheapest for CPU's, at least when I built this PC.  I agree with Dylan.  Been using EVGA video cards for years and it has been flawless.  Also Corsair RAM has been super reliable for me.  But all this doesn't mean anything since you already bought it.

 

For $810 I got this:

 

i7 3770k

EVGA 660 Ti FTW+ edition

6 or 8GB don't remember of Corsair XMS Vengeance

ASRock mobo great specs and great price

Corsair case

Antec modular PSU I think 800w or something

 

Already had a WD hard drive which saved some cash.  Also had Windows 7.



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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:55 PM

I'd say at least move to a 650ti. The cost difference is minimal for the difference in performance. 


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:47 AM

After reading a few reviews it seems like the current cards (GTX 650/ GTX 660) aren't keeping up with the current games (Crysis 3 & Tomb Raider) and only do moderately well with BF3. Are we in between generations of video cards? I want to upgrade but I don't want to spend the money on a card that is already borderline obsolete.


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:33 AM

Just buy this, it's cheap.

 

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Whatever you buy now will be worthless by the time it breaks anyway.



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:40 AM

who needs a good processor or video card or hard drive? just give me 1000 gigs of ram that i won't use


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:47 PM

After reading a few reviews it seems like the current cards (GTX 650/ GTX 660) aren't keeping up with the current games (Crysis 3 & Tomb Raider) and only do moderately well with BF3. Are we in between generations of video cards? I want to upgrade but I don't want to spend the money on a card that is already borderline obsolete.

AMD - 7950 or 7970

 

Nvidia - gtx 670 or 680

 

GTX 660 Ti is still formidable, the 660 not so much. You will have a beastly machine if you can get two GTX 660 Ti in SLI. 


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:21 PM

AMD - 7950 or 7970

 

Nvidia - gtx 670 or 680

 

GTX 660 Ti is still formidable, the 660 not so much. You will have a beastly machine if you can get two GTX 660 Ti in SLI. 

I can't justify $600+ for a graphics setup.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:48 PM

I can't justify $600+ for a graphics setup.

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